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5. series - photos above, the plant at the very right has an inflorescence clearly different from the foregoing plants, that's why I said there are at least two different plants in this series.
You suggested acutifolia - you have this plant in your collection and can compare your photos.
Certainly no helmutiana on any of your photos ! ! !
Hieronder een reeks fotos van planten gegroepeerd per herkomst.
Ech gibbiflora? in grensgebied Guerrero-Michoacan.
For both states only E. fulgens var. fulgens is indicated, no E. gibbiflora though. This may not completely exclude E. gibbiflora, but in regard of the structure of the inflorescence this is not gibbiflora. The branches are much shorter than E. gibbiflora ever is.
E. fulgens var. fulgens is said to be smaller in all parts than E. gibbiflora and has leaves turning to reddish or brownish.
For the next two series I agree with E. gibbiflora.
Volgende reeks komt ook van Oaxaca, tussen Putla en Juxtlahuaca. Wij denken hier eerder aan fulgens (obtusifolia?)
E. fulgens var. fulgens and var. obtusifolia differ primarily in the size of the rosettes which is difficult to estimate from your photos. E. Walther says that var. obtusifolia "never approaches [var. fulgens] in leaf colour but is always clear deep green". Whether this is also true for extreme conditions, I do not know.
A question for the next series : Regarding the inflorescences there are at least 2 different plants included ?
Again many thanks, Mieke, for sharing your photos - not much of a rosette to see but very colourful flowers and the plants growing at the wayside !
http://www.crassulaceae.ch/index.php?TP … 70_id=1217
Corrado Coccorese a trouvé la solution : très probablement Crassula scabra. Dans le livre de Gordon Rowley, Crassula, A Grower's Guide, p. 228, il y a une photo très ressemblante. Rowley dit que la plante n'est pas en cultivation - mais existe bien au sud de l'Afrique, évidemment ! Paul, pourrais-tu demander à ton ami s'il me permettrait de publier ses photos sur le notre site ?
Even when in flower E. pinetorum and E. sessiliflora are not easy to tell apart, also E. pinetorum flowers are almost sessile.
Indeed Mieke, to see all these rosettes in flower must be awesome !
Voilà ! Merci Benoît !
Ce qui est intéressant, Benoît - ta plante n'est pas "bronze" - c'est dû à la photo ou c'est la réalité ?
Tolle Bilder - das hat sich wirklich gelohnt ! Herzlichen Dank für die Präsentation, Stefan !
Auspflanzen bringt Dir zwar auch viel Arbeit, aber wenn sie so besser gefeit sind gegen Wetterextreme lohnt sich dies vermutlich schon. Wir müssen ja davon ausgehen, dass Wetterextreme in Zukunft nicht ab- sondern zunehmen werden.
Die darf sich wirklich sehen lassen, und Du kannst ruhig ein bisschen stolz auf sie sein !
Thank you, Mieke ! http://crassulaceae.ch/index.php?TPL=10122&x270_id=1569
J'ai échangé les fleurs de C. perforata - merci beaucoup pour les photos ensoleillées !
What is the difference between the description of E. corallina and the description of E. sessiliflora ?
Without the flowers difficult to know. E. pinetorum is resembling.
Leaves are too narrow for 'Derenceana', Jacquie.
Ce n'est pas un cv - c'est un hybride ..... http://www.crassulaceae.ch/index.php?TP … 270_id=769
Maybe - maybe not ....
Hello Zeynep, nice to see you back again !
Inflorescences are visible now - I suggest we better wait to see them ! ! ! The overall shape of the rosettes reminds of E. 'Dondo' ...
Et la plante elle-même ne développe pas plus de feuilles ?
Seeing the new photos of plants in a more normal position and with well developped inflorescences, I do not hesitate to call it E. skinneri. Mieke, you see it can be misleading to present only photos of plants in uncommon situations and with poorly looking inflorescences !
E. amphoralis is not possible because this is a puberulous plant all over.
Urs Eggli ist Euch sehr danken, wenn Ihr ihm diesen Befund meldet.
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E. skinneri seems rather doubtful because of the pendent / decumbent habit, and flowers of skinneri have pedicels 10 - 16 mm long - I think longer than on your photo ?