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I do not quote from a book but from articles published by Ray in the Sedum Society Newsletters over the years. And I asked when the photo was taken because Ray also wrote : "Like many Mediterranean annuals,  this little ephemeral stonecrop is a winter grower ending its cycle in spring, when it flowers itself to death. ...  All three species grow in Cyprus, turn dark wine in full sun, and are spent by midsummer. Sedum porphyreum is the odd man out, for it is the only endemic succulent not to be made up of rosettes. .... After much searching, we discovered the diminutive S. porphyreum at Karavopetra, north of Lara Bay, Akamas Peninsula. Individual plants grow no more than a few centimeters high in sites where there is no competition from taller or more sprawling plants. .... associated with low-lying ground, although it is reported to grow on the lower slopes of the Kyrenia Mountains in the Turkish-occupied sector of the island."

I am quite confident that Ray will be able to identify it.

La photo des fleurs de P. sediforme est très utile - la base velue des filaments est évidente - merci beaucoup, Tom !

Nein, Paul, wenn sie nur 5 Staubfäden hat, dann kann es nicht ssp. porphyreum sein.
No, if there are only 5 stamens, it cannot be ssp. porphyreum.
However, Ray says : "S. prophyreum has a habit of shedding some of its two whorls of stamens, but newly opened flowers have their full complement of ten stamens." So there might still be a chance !

S. porphyreum is often confused with S. caespitosum and S. rubens, Ray explains : "S. caespitosum and S. rubens are kyphocarpic species, that is, the carpels bulge, bend outward and produce stellate fruit. The fruit of S. porphyreum remain upright."

Unfortunately no fruits are visible on the photo .... There are still many buds - when did you take the photo Paul?

As far as I see, S. pallidum is not indicated for Cyprus. It is rather S. eriocarpum. It could be ssp. porphyreum which is growing on Cyprus, decisive is the number of stamens - difficult to see on the photo. Paul, do you have a close-up which would help to count the stamens ?

Und - der Strand - das ist eine Schande, die reinste Abfalldeponie. Offenbar stört das niemanden.

Ray a écrit :  "A particularly glabrous, green, upright, robust form known as Sedum virescens Willd. is no more than a regional variation of Petrosedum rupestre."

Non, P. thartii n'est pas possible parce que la pré-inflorescence de cette espèce n'est pas penchée.

Pourquoi pas P. rupestre - c'est une espèce très variable ....

Google will tell you .....

Tu as raison Thomas, ce n'est pas C. sarcocaulis. Les feuilles de cette espèce sont plutôt plates.

Je pense Agnès a raison, il est vrai, l'inflorescence est très courte = pas bien développée, explicable par la petite taille de cette plante, mais les fleurs correspondent assez bien - sur iSpot il y a de nombreuses photos.

L'illustration est publiée dans la thèse de 1977. La description est publiée dans la Flore de 1985. Celle-ci est regardée comme le dernier mot ....

Sehr aufmerksam von Dir, dass Du uns teilhaben lässt an Deiner Exkursion. Du gestattest sicher, dass ich Deine Fotos auf der ICN-Seite publiziere ?

Merci bien, Agnès : http://www.crassulaceae.ch/de/artikel?a … G&aID=3038

Until recently these green forms have been widely considered to be the true P. compactum, and quite understandably because they often have leaves much more distinctly marked than the species itself. One of them was described by E. Walther as P. compactum var. weinbergii while the true - more greyish - P. compactum sometimes was called P. compatum "glaucum".