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#2 2014-04-22 17:00:33
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#4 2014-04-26 07:44:59
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Re: A identifier 1
it´s the short leaved Form called ´Obesum´.
Exactly, but I guess 'Obesum' is a superfluous name, except for the growers, about a fat-leaved form of a variable species.
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#5 2014-04-26 19:42:31
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Re: A identifier 1
It is correct that S. lucidum 'Obesum' is just an extreme form of a variable species. As its leaves and habit are distinctly different from the plant described by Clausen, a cv name is seems to be justified.
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#6 2014-04-27 06:24:08
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As its leaves and habit are distinctly different from the plant described by Clausen
Clausen precised : " 0.7-4.8 cm. longa, 6-19 mm. lata, 3.6-10 mm. crassa ".
I have this fat-leaved form, and I measured, for the largest leaf : 32 mm x 18 mm, and 10 mm in thickness.
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#7 2014-04-28 13:38:50
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Les mesures que tu listes sont correctes. Cependant Clausen (1951) n'avait pas connu cette plante qui a été trouvé par A. Lau seulement 20 ans plus tard. Cela veut dire ses mesures se refèrent à la forme "normale" de S. lucidum qui Clausen compare avec S. adolphi / nussbaumerianum. Et c'est justement parce que la plante de Lau était différent -"leaves are larger, more rounded apically, very shiny and turn a beautiful reddish colour during cool weather"- elle a reçu un nom de cv.
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#9 2014-05-12 16:32:36
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Re: A identifier 1
Tu vas noter Sedum lucidum 'Obesum' !
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