International Crassulaceae Network Forum

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I agree with Tom and Lur - this plant is K. rosei var variifolia (var according to Shaw), and it is distributed under the cultivar name 'Lucky Bells' in Europe. As Tom said it differs from K. x richaudii in much bigger and pronounced teeth and less linear leaves, but also by being petiolate (mature leaves of course) while K. x richaudii is sessile. variifolia also has a very different calyx - remains green with spots between sepals in sun (not purple in sun or just green in shade like x richaudii), with calyx tube that is shorter and much widest at the base of the sepals (not longer and nearly tubular/cylindrical in x richaudii), and with more acute sepals than x richaudii. Shaw (2008) included in this name K. "rauhii" too, saying that they are the same, without justification.

K. rosei var variifolia, "rauhii" and x richaudii are all hybrids of rosei (var rosei and/or serratifolia), most likely with delagoensis (also some suggested daigremontiana as the second parent for variifolia, but without justification). So the name x richaudii is definitely more appropriate than K. rosei var variifolia, but this is not proven to be true (that variifolia is also rosei x delagoensis) - so I would not call this plant x richaudii, especially as it looks very different from the "real" x richaudii. ("rauhii", that possibly represents the same plant as variifolia, is an invalid name - so it is not a viable option either).

Thank you, Tom! I got this clone from Richaud.
It is the first miniata that ever flowered in my collection and I can't wait to compare it with the other clones (all in buds)!

Margrit, I'll check as soon as the storm passes - what to look for exactly? As far as I understand it looks like a rounded tip on top of the anthers?

Some more photos from before / during the current storm:

An interesting clone of "blossfeldiana", from Japan:

Buds of K. x 'Wendy', single flowered, again:

Buds of the possible K. gracilipes x uniflora, again:

Different perspectives on K. rebmannii:

A lobed clone of presumably K. spathulata also prepares buds (they were eaten by a snail but developed again):

Newer photo of the robust K. miniata:

First open flower of the regular clone of millottii (damaged by hail):

ISI 95-35 K. x 'Pink Zinfandel' is preparing buds - this photo isn't very clear, I'll try to take a better one soon.

Thanks! That hail happened when the corolla was still tiny, so I could see how it slowly develops "inside" the calyx. It was also exposed to light much earlier, and probably this is why this flower was the first to open.

As promised, more photos (8 instead of 7):

Buds of Richaud's possible second clone of inaurata or miniata, that Tom also has:

Buds of Richaud's peltigera-like miniata (in leaf shape and coloration):

Just noticed that jongmansii is also about to flower:

Buds on porphyrocalyx x uniflora from Japan:

'Jaws of Life', again (it is mostly in shade, in full sun the corolla color is dark red):

K. humilis "figuereidoi":

An example of hail damage on daigremontiana:

Flowers of my crenata (hairless, dark yellow flowered), with some hail damage, too:

Three weeks passed since my last post, due to another very strong hail storm. I managed to mostly shield most of the pots but large pots (like clones of rosei and fedschenkoi) suffered some damage, especially to the inflorescences. The rest regenerated relatively well, so here are some new developments.

Buds on my regular clone of x 'Wendy' (miniata x porphyrocalyx), i.e. not double-flowered, from Japan:

Buds on another plant that recently arrived from Japan, a possible uniflora x gracilipes:

Newer photo of K. sp. Pic St Louis:

K. rebmannii in flower:

K. peltigera:

K. laciniata, possibly 'African Queen'?:

K. × houghtonii (daigremontiana x delagoensis) 'Jaws Of Life':

The tiny flowers of the regular K. humilis:

Marginated K. blossfeldiana:

One of two clones of wide-leaf K. beauverdii (with some hail damage):

It is the "up to" size - younger leaves are smaller. I have another form of glaucescens, but the only thing that makes me question the ID is the size of its leaves, up to 3.5 x 1.5 cm. I'll wait for it to look more characteristic before posting photos (it had trouble adjusting to my conditions), but it's very different from this form. And there is the unidentified species from earlier posts - looks somewhat like a possible glaucescens, but too big and erect.

Some additional forms are with open flowers - I already took the photos but will post later...

For now, a comparison between two clones of prittwitzii (which resembles glaucescens in many traits), one from Yale Sedman who received it from Kenya, the other received as "K. lugardii" from Richaud and collected by Descoings. "K. lugardii" is the one with entire leaves.

OK, thanks! I have to agree that it's too risky with the possible luciae...

Some new openings:

Yellow flowered 'Calendiva':

The very fragrant thyrsiflora:

Richaud's K. sp from Pic Saint Louis:

And I just had to show-off 'Tessa' again:

And another mystery plant, maybe K. glaucescens?

Thanks Margrit!

Here are the first flowers to open of K. sexangularis and hairless K. synsepala:

And two additional tomentosa that I suspect might differ from the other five:

And a mystery,
Two weeks ago I found behind a bush in my garden a large Kalanchoe - the inflorescence was sticking out. It must have been there since the renovations a few years back, or maybe from seeds. I potted it and now it looks much better. Originally I thought it's a K. luciae, but the inflorescence had only one stage suggesting thyrsiflora, and now as the flowers are closer to opening - the petals are clearly yellow (suggesting thyrsiflora). The problem is that I don't remember ever having this species, instead I'm pretty sure that two years ago I saw the flowers of K. luciae in my garden (whitish petals, several stages) and I still have cuttings from this plant... Is there a way to confirm my memory that I have K. luciae, too, even if it hasn't flowered since??? See the photos below:

What I thought was my only plant of the two species, and based on memory alone, it is K. luciae?:

The rediscovered plant, apparently K. thyrsiflora:

K. rauhii hort. (the K. rosei hybrid) was never officially named either, as far as I know. I was referring to the invalid "var. rauhii" of tomentosa, a name applied in Europe to the same form of long haired tomentosa as "var. fievetii" in the US. Thanks for reinforcing my memory that both vars are invalid!

About the K. rosei hybrid "K. rauhii" (which I have) - I disagree with Shaw (2008) that it is the same plant as Kalanchoe rosei subsp. variifolia (distributed as K. 'Lucky Bells'), based on comparing the former with online photos of the latter (both flowers and leaves differ in some traits). However I can't be sure yet as I don't have subsp./var. variifolia/'Lucky Bells'... (And there is of course x richaudii - yet another K. rosei x delagoensis hybrid, but it is very different from these two)

I hope so too!

This is usually the case, judging by other species with variegated forms (luciae, fedtschenkoi...). But I was referring to the one with variegated edges, have never seen the other one!

I have five different cultivars only two of which are named... That's a very specific question, now I'm curious!

I misread the question, sorry... I know: 'Chocolate Soldier', 'European Clone', 'Golden Girl', 'Super Didier', 'Super Duper', 'Super Fuzzy', "var. rauhii" which is probably the same as "var. fievetii", and the variegated form. There are many unnamed forms in cultivation, too.

Thank you a lot, Laurent!

I found a leave of this L. guttatum at the "botanical garden" in Tel Aviv, during the last spring. During the spring the climate here is very nice, slightly too hot sometimes, so leaves root very well. I'm surprised that your plant gets burns during the summer, because mine had probably at least 5-6 hours of direct sun during the summer every day (no burns), and here the summer sun is brutal... I don't fertilize it, and during the summer my region is totally devoid of rain so I water everything to the bone about once a week (5-9 days), but small pots like this one are watered twice as often some times (based on how they look). During the late autumn to early spring I don't usually water at all (unless there is a drought) - in my climate plants are susceptible to large amounts of water after the dry summer.

The condition you're describing for your L. g. is familiar to my other species of L. Recently I think I found out why - the two species that rot during the summer were potted in a dense soil, which includes a lot of sand and small rocks. My L. g. however is potted in a gardening mix, with tuff, moss fiders, and soil (no sand), so if you're using sand, a lighter mix with fibers might help...

And now, some new photos:

The flowers of Kalanchoe marnieriana and x 'Tessa' started to open today.

Also, here is yet another "blossfeldiana", a soon to be yellow flowered 'Calendiva':

A comparison between the buds of my two clones of K. humilis - the typical humilis has more mature green buds, while the "figuereidoi" has purplish buds, which are clearly younger.

Some of you might remember the possible K. inaurata from Tom's post. My plant was beheaded by the brutal hail a few months ago, I assumed that it won't flower this season. Nevertheless, the new narrow leaves on the plants (the apex, and the body) suggest otherwise!

And finally two more photos of K. spathulata var. spathulata in flower:

So it's like ingrown hair in humans...